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president obama is a great debater. the way i recall it, brooke, in the last presidential campaign, debates were not president obama's strengths. in fact, he's a much better speechmaker than he is a debater. and don't forget, he hasn't debated an awful lot lately. when the president of the united states and you're in the oval office, people tend not to debate with you an awful lot. you live in the presidential bubble. he hasn't been on stage with other people challenging him. so in a way, he sort of has got to get used to this routine over and over again, where as mitt romney has been on a debate stage an awful lot of times. >> if i recall, you were in a lot of those debates, he's tough, he's no wallflower that mitt romney. what is his biggest challenge, though? going into wednesday? >> the biggest challenge, i think mitt romney has got to do a couple of things. they're at odds with each other. first thing goehe's got to do i take on president obama directly when it comes to policy. what he has to tell the voters is i'v
president obama is a great debater. the way i recall it, brooke, in the last presidential campaign, debates were not president obama's strengths. in fact, he's a much better speechmaker than he is a debater. and don't forget, he hasn't debated an awful lot lately. when the president of the united states and you're in the oval office, people tend not to debate with you an awful lot. you live in the presidential bubble. he hasn't been on stage with other people challenging him. so in a way, he...
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just three days until that crucial first debate between president obama and governor romney. the first chance for voters to see the candidates side by side in what many say is a make-or-break opportunity for governor romney to try to narrow that gap in the polls. tonight both sides in debate prep, both sides trying to lower expectations, but there was a notable exception that one of romney's top supporters predicted on abc's "this week." it's "your voice, your vote," and abc's david kerley starts us off tonight in washington. >> reporter: mitt romney went to church, but this sunday wasn't a day just for prayers. it's preparation. cramming by the candidates for their big debate, and republican chris christie made a bold prediction on abc's "this week." >> every time mitt romney has been confronted in this campaign with one of these moments, he has come through in the debate and performed extraordinarily well, so i have absolute confidence that when we get to thursday morning, george, all of you are going to be shaking your head saying it's a brand-new race. >> reporter: christ
just three days until that crucial first debate between president obama and governor romney. the first chance for voters to see the candidates side by side in what many say is a make-or-break opportunity for governor romney to try to narrow that gap in the polls. tonight both sides in debate prep, both sides trying to lower expectations, but there was a notable exception that one of romney's top supporters predicted on abc's "this week." it's "your voice, your vote," and...
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i'm taking over the students for obama account, which is@students4obama the night of the debate. really to have a two-way conversation with a lot of our young people. a lot of organizers, we have 12,500 fellows that organize things like watch parties or, you know, debate parties at campus offices or apartments or dorm rooms. taking some time to do a q & a via twitter with some of the folks and kind of make the debate a little more engaging and a little more back and forth. >> all right. we'll be fully engaged on debate night. kal, good to see you, as always. >> thanks, suzanne. >> you can watch the action. cnn's live coverage wednesday night's debate starts at 7:00 eastern. >>> rumors, grudges, infighting, drama. you probably think -- don't think the supreme court when you hear those words, but it has been a rocky ride for this court. they're now back for a new term today. oarthritis pain. imagine living your life with less chronic low back pain. imagine you, with less pain. cymbalta can help. cymbalta is fda-approved to manage chronic musculoskeletal pain. one non-narcotic pill
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barack obama and mitt romney getting ready to face off for the first time in this week's debate. and we have a new poll, asking americans how they would vote if the election were held right now. the abc news/"washington post" poll shows the two contenders separated just two points among likely voters. 36 days to go now before your voice, your vote. and abc's jake tapper and abc's david muir are traveling with the candidates to tell us how you train for a debate night that could change everything. jake leads us off. jake? >> reporter: diane, top obama campaign officials have been pouring over republican debate tapes, studying mitt romney. and according to one person familiar with the president's debate preparations, it has been exhausting work and the president is definitely out of practice, though, of course, the campaign has been trying to lower expectations. president obama has been practicing for the debates at the westin lake, las vegas, resort and spa. 17 miles from the las vegas strip. presidential debate veteran john kerry is participating in the mock debates, pretending t
barack obama and mitt romney getting ready to face off for the first time in this week's debate. and we have a new poll, asking americans how they would vote if the election were held right now. the abc news/"washington post" poll shows the two contenders separated just two points among likely voters. 36 days to go now before your voice, your vote. and abc's jake tapper and abc's david muir are traveling with the candidates to tell us how you train for a debate night that could change...
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now, president obama is a good debater. i think generally what governor kritty was saying is when the stakes are this high in an election like this, when you have -- when you've added $5 trillion in debt and we have the worst economy since the great depression and now we're seeing our foreign policy collapse around the world, they tend to be independent voters anyway and they tend to focus on the debate. the debates are significant, and i would agree with that? is it pretty clear that if governor romney is writing op-eds 48 hours before that's supposed to be about economy and domestic policy that he's trying to send a signal to jim laird that he wants libya brought up? >> i don't think he's going to mind if libya's brought up. it's a collapse of our foreign policy. really what we're seeing -- >> you say a collapse of foreign policy. well, go ahead. finish your tlans and then i want to talk about that for a minute. >> sure. i think it's going to be a domestic policy debate. i'm sure romney's main message is going to be, look
now, president obama is a good debater. i think generally what governor kritty was saying is when the stakes are this high in an election like this, when you have -- when you've added $5 trillion in debt and we have the worst economy since the great depression and now we're seeing our foreign policy collapse around the world, they tend to be independent voters anyway and they tend to focus on the debate. the debates are significant, and i would agree with that? is it pretty clear that if...
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inside you want to fall down. >> reporter: four years ago, michelle obama got so nervous in the debates, she didn't like to watch them. she'll be there tomorrow in the debate hall. we turn to david muir who is there. >> reporter: hey, jake. tonight, here are some key decisions made moments ago. a coin toss between the campaigns determining that president obama will be introduced first and will have the first question. governor romney will get the final argument. there was a toss which of the wives would be introduced first. i want to show the debate stage. both podiums. both candidates will stand with one another. that's why the romney team is concentrating on the answers and the body language. where was he earlier today? at chipotle. he's with rob port nman. if you were inside that debate prep room, what would you tell the governor? >> be honest. be straightforward. >> reporter: what do you tell him in the debate room? >> i say show him who you are. there's been bad press because of his comments about the 47% of the 49% that he doesn't care about. he does care about everyone. >> i woul
inside you want to fall down. >> reporter: four years ago, michelle obama got so nervous in the debates, she didn't like to watch them. she'll be there tomorrow in the debate hall. we turn to david muir who is there. >> reporter: hey, jake. tonight, here are some key decisions made moments ago. a coin toss between the campaigns determining that president obama will be introduced first and will have the first question. governor romney will get the final argument. there was a toss...
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many more people think that obama will win this debate. the expectations are low for him. he really does. he doesn't just need to hold his own, needs to get in there and give people a reason why he looks and acts like a president in a better way than obama would. >> but michelle, there's so much doubt going that paul ryan, according to the national review, he's even calling conservative pundits to reassure them. let me read you a national review report. it writes, paul ryan has a new mission. reassuring conservative pundits. republicans familiar with the calls say ryan's tone has been positive and upbeat but he has acknowledged that the campaign has made some missteps. this is not liberal bias. this is the national review reporting. the vice presidential candidate is trying to reassure conservative pundits. >> well, conservative pundits, you know, mainstream republican, nobody has been a huge romney constituency here. you know, conservatives loved it when romney got put on the ticket. they thought this was a good sign that the romney campaign was finally going to be about
many more people think that obama will win this debate. the expectations are low for him. he really does. he doesn't just need to hold his own, needs to get in there and give people a reason why he looks and acts like a president in a better way than obama would. >> but michelle, there's so much doubt going that paul ryan, according to the national review, he's even calling conservative pundits to reassure them. let me read you a national review report. it writes, paul ryan has a new...
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. >> president obama talking about zingers and trying to manage expectations for the debate. charles and ross are back to talk about whether that's a good strategy. i have a poll here about who's likely to win the debate and very clearly, people think that obama will, 55% to 31%. yet, i would say that the favorite really ought to be mitt romney, purely because he spent most of the year debating against very good debaters like newt gingrich and rick santorum and others. they were very capable opponents on a debate stage. barack obama hasn't done this for four years. so i would think the advantage would definitely be with the apparent underdog, a, because people don't think he's going to win and i think he may well win that first debate and secondly, because he's the more experienced debater. >> well, i think i would caution you a little bit. i think the president, when he has given kind of press interviews, that is a form of being pressed on things so maybe you're not debating another opponent one-on-one, but you are going through the process of answering questions and tough q
. >> president obama talking about zingers and trying to manage expectations for the debate. charles and ross are back to talk about whether that's a good strategy. i have a poll here about who's likely to win the debate and very clearly, people think that obama will, 55% to 31%. yet, i would say that the favorite really ought to be mitt romney, purely because he spent most of the year debating against very good debaters like newt gingrich and rick santorum and others. they were very...
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most people will go into these debates, if you like obama, you will think he did a debate job. romney has said that he wants to use the debates as a clarifying moment. he thinks the democrats have waged an inaccurate campaign. he has said he expects obama to tell more untruths on the debate stage but he thinks there is a real opportunity for him. there is congratulations from the romney campaign, what a great debater obama is and in some ways they are mediocre debaters. there have been some mistakes. obama is likeable enough moment with hillary clinton. gwen: think of the debates you have covered, chuck -- >> because i'm old. [laughter] gwen: which once would you say have made a difference in the outcome? >> well, i'm not actually this old -- [laughter] >> clearly when gerald ford said that the poland not under soviet domination that was one of his memorable type of gaffes and the big putdown from lloyd bentsten and dan quayle. they don't have a moment where they say that guy is clearly better than the other guy. they are both well prepared. these are smart people. and not like
most people will go into these debates, if you like obama, you will think he did a debate job. romney has said that he wants to use the debates as a clarifying moment. he thinks the democrats have waged an inaccurate campaign. he has said he expects obama to tell more untruths on the debate stage but he thinks there is a real opportunity for him. there is congratulations from the romney campaign, what a great debater obama is and in some ways they are mediocre debaters. there have been some...
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getting in line with senator rob portman who has been playing president obama in mock debates. taking pictures with some of the workers there. we asked the supporters what they would say if they were coaching him in the mock debates? if you were inside that debate prep room, what would you tell the governor? >> be honest. be straightforward. >> reporter: what do you tell him in the debate room? >> i say show them who you are. there's been bad press because of his comments about the 47% of the 49% that he doesn't care about. he does care about everyone. >> i would say use all the facts that you can and speak from the heart. >> reporter: she said show some heart on this stage. i did talk with a campaign adviser today. he said there's no question that the 47% will come up on the debate stage. they've been training the governor on that. whether it is from the moderator or an answer from president obama. one other thing i heard today is that governor romney does not have to win a charm offensive. on that debate stage. he has to prove he can relate to average american problems. a lot
getting in line with senator rob portman who has been playing president obama in mock debates. taking pictures with some of the workers there. we asked the supporters what they would say if they were coaching him in the mock debates? if you were inside that debate prep room, what would you tell the governor? >> be honest. be straightforward. >> reporter: what do you tell him in the debate room? >> i say show them who you are. there's been bad press because of his comments...
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debate in denver. at a rally in las vegas, president obama tried to manage the speculations. >> i know the media is speculating who is going to have the best zinger. i don't know about that. governor romney, he's a good debater. >> reporter: as both hunker down for intense practice, the polls show americans overwhelming with the election and the president lose. in a new abc news/"washington post" poll out this morning, 63% of registered voters expect president obama to win the election. that's his biggest lead so far when it comes to expectations. but looking at like hi supporters, the race is much closer. president obama leads mitt romney by two points. republican governor chris christie predicted romney could close the gap with president obama after a strong showing on wednesday's debate. >> i'm absolutely confident when we get to thursday morning, george. >> reporter: president obama is keeping his answers short and concise. >> the president has got to be president. this is the guy that killed osama
debate in denver. at a rally in las vegas, president obama tried to manage the speculations. >> i know the media is speculating who is going to have the best zinger. i don't know about that. governor romney, he's a good debater. >> reporter: as both hunker down for intense practice, the polls show americans overwhelming with the election and the president lose. in a new abc news/"washington post" poll out this morning, 63% of registered voters expect president obama to win...
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do you think you would have done better against the obama that was debating this week? >> i think so, piers, but, you know, it would sound like i am now trying to rewrite history or i would have done better. you know, i've never tried to do any of that looking back and certainly not in anger or bitterness. but i think it is true that during the 2008 campaign, the president or then-senator obama had no record to defend. and one of the reasons why mitt did so well in this debate was because mitt was, i think, very legitimately attacking his record, whether it be the $90 billion in subsidies for energy or a number of the other things that -- the failure of dodd/frank, and so the president had a record to defend this time. but, one, do not underestimate the president of the united states. he will come back strong. i think mitt has to be prepared for that. and also, as you mentioned, these job numbers will give him a bit of -- or something of a boost today. >> we've got the vp debate coming up. you said about joe biden he's the gift that keeps on giving. are you hoping that
do you think you would have done better against the obama that was debating this week? >> i think so, piers, but, you know, it would sound like i am now trying to rewrite history or i would have done better. you know, i've never tried to do any of that looking back and certainly not in anger or bitterness. but i think it is true that during the 2008 campaign, the president or then-senator obama had no record to defend. and one of the reasons why mitt did so well in this debate was because...
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he did not control the debate at all. obama had much more time than romney. i think a couple of times, romney did sort of interrupt, but he had to. obama had been on for five minutes. i timed it myself. the other thing is that people are saying that romney did not lay out his agenda very well. i think he did. he explained what he wanted to do, 1, 2, 3, several times. the lady from florida said that he didn't explain what he was going to
he did not control the debate at all. obama had much more time than romney. i think a couple of times, romney did sort of interrupt, but he had to. obama had been on for five minutes. i timed it myself. the other thing is that people are saying that romney did not lay out his agenda very well. i think he did. he explained what he wanted to do, 1, 2, 3, several times. the lady from florida said that he didn't explain what he was going to
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>> four years from his last debate. >> you're wrong. >> will president obama be rusty? or, can he break the race wide open? we'll ask our headliners. new jersey governor chris christie and the president's senior adviser david plouffe. and our powerhouse roundtable. squaring off, former party chairs haley barbour and howard dean. plus, matthew dowd, donna brazile and maggie haberman of politico. >>> hello again. we're heading into the home stretch of this campaign. just 37 days before the final votes, with all eyes on this week's first debate. the candidates are hunkering down in debate camp. our guests are ready to weigh in on where the race stands. what to expect wednesday? white house adviser david plouffe standing by for the president. but let's begin with the romney camp, and the man who kicked off the republican convention last month, new jersey governor chris christie. good morning. >> good morning, george. >> since the convention, romney has fallen behind in the battlegrounds. new polls out this morning, ohio and iowa, behind in both. governor romney has to shake
>> four years from his last debate. >> you're wrong. >> will president obama be rusty? or, can he break the race wide open? we'll ask our headliners. new jersey governor chris christie and the president's senior adviser david plouffe. and our powerhouse roundtable. squaring off, former party chairs haley barbour and howard dean. plus, matthew dowd, donna brazile and maggie haberman of politico. >>> hello again. we're heading into the home stretch of this campaign....
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. >>> president obama and mitt romney talked about jobs at the debate. they discussed taxes, debt, even big bird. but neither candidate mentioned the most immediate threat to our economy. i'll tell you what that is next on your money. the writer's desktop and the coordinator's phone are working on a joke with local color. the secure cloud just received a revised intro from the strategist's tablet. and while i make my way into the venue, the candidate will be rehearsing off of his phone. [ candidate ] and thanks to every young face i see out there. [ woman ] his phone is one of his biggest supporters. [ female announcer ] with cisco at the center... working together has never worked so well. [ male announcer ] one in six. that's how many struggle with hunger in america. ♪ but what if there was a simple way to feed those in need? now, there is. shop walmart for select brands' low prices through october 12th and you help secure meals for local families. go to walmart.com/hunger and learn more about how you can join the fight. because hunger is a big probl
. >>> president obama and mitt romney talked about jobs at the debate. they discussed taxes, debt, even big bird. but neither candidate mentioned the most immediate threat to our economy. i'll tell you what that is next on your money. the writer's desktop and the coordinator's phone are working on a joke with local color. the secure cloud just received a revised intro from the strategist's tablet. and while i make my way into the venue, the candidate will be rehearsing off of his...
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both of talented debaters. obama has some advantages. he's debated in the general election stage before. romney has the advantage of having simply debated more over the last year. so i think it's kind of an even stage there, but the situation is not comparable to reagan versus carter. the economic metrics when carter was running for re- election were extremely negative, much more negative than they are today, and just this last week, polls show that the pub has more confidence in the president's economic views and vision and program than romney. so he has lost the one advantage that he once had. secondly, there were a lot of independent, undecided voters in 1980 who had lost faith in carter and were just waiting to see if they could feel confidence in his challenger. there are so few independent voters. this is an election that's about mobilizing the bases. so going after the independent voter is not a big surprise. having said all that in the memo put out by david axelrod -- >> who is who? >> he's the campaign guru on the obama side. >>
both of talented debaters. obama has some advantages. he's debated in the general election stage before. romney has the advantage of having simply debated more over the last year. so i think it's kind of an even stage there, but the situation is not comparable to reagan versus carter. the economic metrics when carter was running for re- election were extremely negative, much more negative than they are today, and just this last week, polls show that the pub has more confidence in the...
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paul ryan gushed over president obama's skills on the debate stage. >> president obama is a very -- he's a very gifted speaker. the man's been on the national stage for many years. he's an experienced debater. >> shockingly, senior white house adviser david plouffe had the same feelings about governor mitt romney. >> we'd expect it all along that governor romney will have a good night. he's prepared more than any candidate in history and shown himself to be a good debater through the years. >> even the candidates were tamping down expectations yesterday. >> i don't think anyone would suggest the debates aren't important. i can't tell you how important it will be. i don't know what will happen at the debates. >> governor romney is a good debater. i'm just okay. >> the soft performance has gotten so soft it's almost evaporated. but while almost everyone seems to be muting enthusiasm in trying to undersell new jersey governor chris christie is taking a different tack. overselling with gusto. >> come thursday morning, the entire narrative of this race is going to change. we have a candidate
paul ryan gushed over president obama's skills on the debate stage. >> president obama is a very -- he's a very gifted speaker. the man's been on the national stage for many years. he's an experienced debater. >> shockingly, senior white house adviser david plouffe had the same feelings about governor mitt romney. >> we'd expect it all along that governor romney will have a good night. he's prepared more than any candidate in history and shown himself to be a good debater...
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what's his debate advice for president obama and mitt romney? >> you've got to be able to look right into the screen and to communicate with the people. >> what does arnold schwarzenegger want to hear from the candidates? >> how are they going to bring both of the parties together and compromise rather than getting stuck in the idealogical corners. >> this is "piers morgan tonight." >>> good evening. our big story tonight, d-day. debate day is just 24 hours away. president obama and mitt romney are deep into their final debate preparation as the clock ticks down for the big event in denver. meanwhile, their top surrogates are out on the campaign trail. paul ryan speaking out for romney in iowa. >> a handful of states will determine this outcome. a handful of states will determine which way our country goes. so you not only have a huge responsibility, you have a tremendous opportunity. >> meanwhile, michelle obama has been stumping for her husband, the president, in ohio. >> this election will be even closer than the last one. that is the only gu
what's his debate advice for president obama and mitt romney? >> you've got to be able to look right into the screen and to communicate with the people. >> what does arnold schwarzenegger want to hear from the candidates? >> how are they going to bring both of the parties together and compromise rather than getting stuck in the idealogical corners. >> this is "piers morgan tonight." >>> good evening. our big story tonight, d-day. debate day is just 24...
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and miss megyn kelly on the first debate, what does mitt romney have to do to defeat president obama. stay tuned for those reports. bob... oh, hey alex. just picking up some, brochures, posters copies of my acceptance speech. great! it's always good to have a backup plan, in case i get hit by a meteor. wow, your hair looks great. didn't realize they did photoshop here. hey, good call on those mugs. can't let 'em see what you're drinking. you know, i'm glad we're both running a nice, clean race. no need to get nasty. here's your "honk if you had an affair with taylor" yard sign. looks good. [ male announcer ] fedex office. now save 50% on banners. gives you a 50% annual bonus. and everyone, but her... likes 50% more cash. but, i have an idea. do you want a princess dress? yes how about some cupcakes? yes lollipop? yes! do you want an etch a sketch? yes! do you want 50% more cash? no you got talent. [ male announcer ] the capital one cash rewards card. with a 50% annual cash bonus it's the card for people who like more cash. what's in your wallet? i usually say that. >>. >> bill: contro
and miss megyn kelly on the first debate, what does mitt romney have to do to defeat president obama. stay tuned for those reports. bob... oh, hey alex. just picking up some, brochures, posters copies of my acceptance speech. great! it's always good to have a backup plan, in case i get hit by a meteor. wow, your hair looks great. didn't realize they did photoshop here. hey, good call on those mugs. can't let 'em see what you're drinking. you know, i'm glad we're both running a nice, clean race....
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david plouffe is running debate prep -- part of the debate prep for president obama, he joins us now. you just heard governor christie on right there, he said that the president isn't going to tell the truth on wednesday night. >> of course, we are, george. first of all governor christie, and i think this clearly the romney belief, they're predicting that the race will change fundamentally. what does that mean? states like ohio and iowa, become very close and tightened up. there will be a way to measure this. challengers tend to do well in debates. we believe that governor romney has more benefit out of this debate than we do. what we tell the people, exactly where we are as a country, where we need to go, how we rebuild the economy and with great detail so people understand, if this president gets reelected what he's going to do for them the next four years. >> governor christie said that the wealthier are going to get a tax cut that is a lie from president obama. >> strong words, but not true. listen, analysts have looked at this. someone who makes over $3 million a year, would get
david plouffe is running debate prep -- part of the debate prep for president obama, he joins us now. you just heard governor christie on right there, he said that the president isn't going to tell the truth on wednesday night. >> of course, we are, george. first of all governor christie, and i think this clearly the romney belief, they're predicting that the race will change fundamentally. what does that mean? states like ohio and iowa, become very close and tightened up. there will be a...
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we're going to hear from michelle obama and ann romney on their debate advice. one of them gets moesh. we'll be right back. ♪ (train horn) vo: wherever our trains go, the economy comes to life. norfolk southern. one line, infinite possibilities. and the candidate's speech is in pieces all over the district. the writer's desktop and the coordinator's phone are working on a joke with local color. the secure cloud just received a revised intro from the strategist's tablet. and while i make my way into the venue, the candidate will be rehearsing off of his phone. [ candidate ] and thanks to every young face i see out there. [ woman ] his phone is one of his biggest supporters. [ female announcer ] with cisco at the center... working together has never worked so well. more than 50 times a day? so brighten your smile a healthy way with listerine® whitening plus restoring rinse. it's the only rinse that makes your teeth two shades whiter and two times stronger. ♪ listerine® whitening... power to your mouth. >>> welcome back to debate night in america. there you s
we're going to hear from michelle obama and ann romney on their debate advice. one of them gets moesh. we'll be right back. ♪ (train horn) vo: wherever our trains go, the economy comes to life. norfolk southern. one line, infinite possibilities. and the candidate's speech is in pieces all over the district. the writer's desktop and the coordinator's phone are working on a joke with local color. the secure cloud just received a revised intro from the strategist's tablet. and while i make my...
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look, barack obama hasn't debated in four years. mitt romney has had a lot of debates in that time, but i do think it's worth noting, andrea, that all of mitt romney's debates have been against multiple people. there was never a time where he had a one on one debate against rick santorum or newt gingrich or rick perry. always debating four or five people who were really sort of aiming at him. he was the frontrunner throughout. barack obama had four debates against hillary clinton, one on one in the 2008 democratic primary, then three debates against john mccain. it's a different dynamic than to be the frontrunner where four or five people are aiming at you throughout a debate. >> here we are on the eve practically of the first debate and it's supposed to be an economic, domestic policy. >> right. >> and now foreign policy has reared its head. we have first of all mitt romney and "the wall street journal" an op-ed, saying that these developments are not as president obama says, mere bumps in the road. they are major issues that put o
look, barack obama hasn't debated in four years. mitt romney has had a lot of debates in that time, but i do think it's worth noting, andrea, that all of mitt romney's debates have been against multiple people. there was never a time where he had a one on one debate against rick santorum or newt gingrich or rick perry. always debating four or five people who were really sort of aiming at him. he was the frontrunner throughout. barack obama had four debates against hillary clinton, one on one in...